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Was I rude about pick up times?

So I have a new client who only does single overnights (she's on-call for her job occasionally so it'll be for one night 2x a week).

She has ALWAYS been late. The first time she dropped off her dog with me, I think she was 2 hrs late. At that time I asked her to text me when she leaves her house (25 min away). With regards to this Saturday morning, the client told me she would pick her dog up at 10AM, texted me an 'I'm so sorry!' at 10:12, said she overslept, and said she was getting ready and would leave. She lives 25 min away but flash forward an HOUR after this text I asked her if she was closeby and she said it would be 20 minutes.

Last stay for her dog I told her that I'm very flexible about when she can pick up her dog but she should text me when she's 25 minutes away (aka when she's leaving her house). I live with other people and her dog is a total escape artist and I need to always be watching him/the door. I've seen a few responses to this kind of always late dilemma on this forum and I feel like maybe I was too firm with her when I made it clear today that she needs to text me '25 minutes' when her keys are literally in the ignition/when she's one second from leaving and that I can't accommodate her if she doesn't do that. I was definitely polite but she looked at me like it was my fault or strange for me to care or something and barely apologized.

How do you guys handle these customers? Do you bring it up at all? Am I too strict and blowing this out of proportion?

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I think you handled it as best you could given your frustration and her own serious lack of understanding of this process and common courtesy. I've had many customers be late for pickups and dropoffs, but I allow it since I'm generally available and they have been great about letting me know when they're running late or needing to change the times. If I really need to know when they're coming, I'll usually say that we have errands to run or something like "let me know when you will be here so my husband and I can make sure we're back from our walk" (or the movies, or doing laundry, etc.). I haven't charged any late fees because a) I generally prefer that dogs get picked up later in the day, especially on weekdays and b) it's complicated to add it onto the stay price, and I don't feel like going through the hassle just to offend someone anyways and risk a negative review.

With people like that particular customer, I would follow someone else's suggestion of making your schedule a little LESS flexible so that she doesn't get the impression you're always there for her (even if you actually are).

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It's certainly not unreasonable to be firm about drop off and pick up times. I think the emphasis should be on sticking to the agreed upon times rather than advance notification (which would not be necessary if she came on time). A mix up on occasion is understandable, but a habit of being late is just rude. Emphasize that those times you agree upon are appointments. If she can't stick to them, there will be consequences, such as extra charges for late pick up, or dropping her as a client totally like many professionals would if she missed multiple scheduled appointments. I don't advocate putting it to her that harshly, but she could stand a reminder that your time is valuable.

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Thank you. I think part of the frustration is that her dog really isn't the best fit for my home... my dog really doesn't like him (I think it's incompatible energies and jealousy). I was planning on telling her today (after this last overnight w her dog; Dingo has been for one overnight before)

Do you have any suggestions on letting her know I can't take her dog anymore? I wrote something out which I think puts the blame on me, which is good, but I'm worried about a bad review, especially after I asked her not to be late. Do I tell her in advance? Or wait for her to contact?

I thjought that my dog just had the nervous jitters with her dog, as she's so mild, but I need to take action. And she actually has observed my dog getting upset upon drop-off. Also, if you don't mind, just for future reference: what do you think are reasonable late charges?

If it were me, I'd go for something in the range of $10-20, depending on how late and how much I had to adjust my own schedule to accommodate the client. As for turning her down for future stays, I think you're on the right track making it about you not being a good fit for her/her dog, rather than the other way around. Tell her what you said here, that after a couple visits, it appears that personality and energy level differences make both dogs uncomfortable, and that you feel that even though you really like watching him, you don't want to keep putting him in a position that isn't ideal when he would be so much happier with a sitter who has a more compatible buddy for him.

After reading the rest of the responses I see you already replied. I think you're both right - you both deserve the courtesy of sticking to your arranged schedule (within limits--I'd never penalize someone if their flight were delayed for pick up) as well as the courtesy of professional communication, even when you're frustrated. I'm glad you resolved the matter on a good note and that you both agree that you should not continue working together.

Thank you for your good advice. I'm glad the client and I have parted ways on decent terms.

What do you think about clients who show up hours late because they just take too long to get ready and/or oversleep? AKA don't have an excuse like a delayed flight or anything. How do you address lateness to these types?

Again, it would depend on the person and how they handle it. I'm unlikely to worry about it if they're usually on time and if they have good communication. I would think twice about continuing to work with a client who had poor communication and was frequently taking advantage of my flexibility. My answers are all pretty hypothetical though, since I've been lucky in this regard and haven't dealt with your exact issue. Thankfully I haven't had anyone be considerably late for drop off, and the times someone has been running a little late they have sent me a text with an apology and a new ETA, which is fine with me.

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From all you've written, you don't want to sit for this dog anymore and deal with its owner. If you've made a commitment to sit for the dog again, then fulfill it. Ask the owner what time she is going to drop off the dog. After she gives you a time, tell her that you have something else a half hour later and you'd appreciate it if she was prompt. If you have to wait, then you will charge her a late fee. Given your daily rate, I would charge $10 and it will have to be paid prior to leaving your house. You will not take the dog unless it gets paid.

After that, if she attempts to book you again, then I would just decline. No reasons are necessary. You don't need this kind of headache and you don't have to get into it with the customer. She'll have to look for someone else since she absolutely needs a regular sitter and likely won't come back to you. If she does, just decline.

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Thanks for your response. I sent her a really nice apologetic message about how my dog gets emotional and I don't think the two dogs are the best fit for eachother (she's seen my dog get upset so she knows). She wrote me the following response:

I had not planned on calling you back after yesterday's remarks.. But since we're having official closure id like to let you know that the tone of voice you spoke to me in yesterday was completely unprofessional. I am the customer and the one paying you and you should always treat somebody nice and pleasantly. Just so you know for future reference.

(cont'd): Good luck with your dog sitting business. I will still leave the good review for your other customers. And I said: I'll have to work on my tone, am sorry that your experience with me was not what you expected, and hope that you find some great future matches.

Luckily I hadn't committed to another stay with her. Fingers crossed that she doesn't change her mind and decide to write a negative review (she wrote a good one for the prior stay). I think I was probably a little exasperated when I asked her to be on time yesterday, but not that bad. Oh well.

No, I don't as a rule because we work out the dropoff/pickup times before the sitting job starts and, if I have to add a daycare charge, it is done at the time of payment. I usually don't run into situations like yours where the person is late on the dropoff. My clients may be delayed by flights/weather when returning and it usually isn't more than a couple of hours. I do give them a bit of leeway (approx 2 hrs).

Thanks for the response. So you only give the 2 hr leeway when there's extenuating circumstances, right? If you don't mind me asking, what exactly is the daycare charge for you? At what time do you charge for that?

I don't really do/book any daycare. If a client leaves a dog with me beyond 24 hours, they'll pay a charge based on the amount of time. As far as extenuating circumstances, it is nice to be compassionate, but this is a business. If their dog were at a kennel, there would be a charge. If you don't check out from a hotel on time, you will pay additional, right?

Yeah totally, I just wasn't sure if you granted a 2 hr cushion period you mentioned for all guests or just if they took a flight somewhere that might be delayed.

I'm also wondering... I'm new to Rover and still raising my rates upon getting new reviews; do I have to use my old rate for past clients when they book again? Is it rude to charge them my new rate?

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Remember, it's your business and if you let someone take advantage of you they will. If she wants to book again, make it clear that she has not been sticking to times and she has to if she wants you to watch her dog. Weed out the problem people. I have been lax with the pickup times as I was starting to build a clientele the last 6months, but now I am implementing an hourly late charge . I'm giving them a 3 hour window, after that they will be charged $3hr. Am reading that other people are saying to a flat charge, but am interested in trying the hourly as it breaks it down more.

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Thanks Suzanne. I actually dropped her as a client because the dog wasn't a good fit either. Too much hassle and it would have been 2x a week for the unforseeable future. Can't deal with that much frequent lateness

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If she says pick up will be 10:00, could you let her know you will be unavailable/out of reach from 10:30-3:30? If it becomes inconvenient for her to work around YOUR schedule maybe she'll work harder to be on time.

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Do you charge late fees for regular customers?

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Unfortunately, lateness and gaps in communication seem to be a real problem for the pet care service industry. I try to remember that my valued clients that I choose to retain have choices of going to other sitters if I can't accommodate them, consider how I would feel if I had to take my dog elsewhere in addition to anything else on my mind, and politely explain to the client why I need to know in advance of their arrival. Often, in my case, it's so they can find me and I won't be out walking my dog or another dog when they want to arrive or leave. In this case, I'd explain it's for the safety/security of her escape artist dog. I wouldn't mandate 25 minutes when keys are in ignition-that sounds really strict & inflexible. I'd ask her what she could make work & allow her to verbalize a commitment.

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Thanks for responding. I've explained to her that I need to know in advance a few times now. She committed to the 10AM time and I had to keep texting her to find out when she was actually going to show. I only said 25 minutes because that's the time it takes for her to get from her house to mine

Otherwise there really is no point in her even picking a time because she'll probably arrive an hour or two later than that- it's impossible to know. I figured asking her to text me when she leaves her house (25 min distance ) would be the most accurate approximation and fairly reasonable.

And that way, she has lots of flexibility in terms of the time she chooses to leave for my house, all she has to do is make me aware of it.

*She chose the 10AM time herself

And I mentioned the 'ignition' part because the last time she texted me and said she was getting ready and would leave soon, she ended up arriving in over an hour.

After the add'l. info. you wrote to Laura, I'd amend my answer. This client does not sound like a good fit. It sounds like you already decided that you should drop her, which is understandable & definitely what I'd suggest. Easy way = just be unavailable, avoids drama. Or tell her it's not good fit.

Thanks Deb. The only issue is that I'd be sitting for her dog 2x a week, each one overnight. Since she wants such a commitment I feel kind of bad and feel like it would be suspicious just telling her I'm busy when she asks (which could be twice a week).

Especially when I haven't been busy for the two times she wanted me to sit for her dog this week. And then after I asked her to not be late on Sat,... I feel like it's tricky to know how to get out of this one